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May 18, 2005 Planning Board Worksession
Chairman Larry Ruth called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.M. Members present were Gene Bavis, Elaine Leasure, Larry Ruth, Pat Stark and Peter Schillaci. Also present were Paul Russell, Norm Druschel, Phil Williamson, and Dick Morris.
Elaine Leasure made a motion, seconded by Gene Bavis to approve the minutes of April 11, 2005, as presented. Motion carried.
1. Request of Mr. & Mrs. Marc White to extend previously approved site plan for Russet Farms, Lot #3 located on Canandaigua Road approximately 600’ south of Kuttruff Road. Property is zoned RR-2.
Dave Matthews from Matthews Consulting, along with the applicant were present. Dave stated that the White’s have purchased lot #3 of the previously approved Willey Subdivision and would like the site plan approval extended for an 18-month period of time.
Dave stated that the site plan is consistent with the current requirements of the Town of Walworth and the New York State Health Department.
Gene Bavis made a motion, seconded by Peter Schillaci to grant the extension of site plan approval for a period of 18 months, beginning today’s date.
Chairman Ruth questioned the correspondence dated May 18, 2005 from Paul Russell, Town Engineer, regarding the “portion” of lot #3. Dave Matthews stated that lot #3 contains 92 acres. Paul Russell stated that Dave had addressed his concern.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
2. Conceptual plan for Dennis O’Brien for single-family site plan with re-subdivision of driveway located on the west side of Monroe-Wayne County Line Road, approximately 340’ north of Atlantic Avenue. Property is zoned RR-1.
Dave Matthews from Matthews Consulting along with the applicant were present. Dave stated that the applicant currently owns a 17-acre parcel and his parents own the 37 acres to the south. There has been a driveway installed on the 17-acre parcel to access the back of the parcel. The applicant would now like to construct a home on the 17-acre parcel, and wants the entire driveway to be on the 17-acre parcel. Therefore, the applicant’s parents are going to sell the applicant a triangular-shaped piece of land, as indicated on the map, to allow the entire driveway to be on the 17-acre parcel. The applicant will then combine both parcels into one tax map number. Site plan will be submitted in the future.
Peter Schillaci questioned if the pole barn belonged to the 17-acre parcel. Mr. O’Brien replied that it is on his parcel.
Gene Bavis made a motion, seconded by Pat Stark to grant approval of the subdivision, as presented.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
3. Conceptual Plan for Orchard View Development for Phase 2, Section A (20 single-family lots) & Section B (12 single-family lots) located north of Teresa Drive. Property is zoned R.
Lee Sinsebox from Costich Engineering along with Tony Evans from Orchard View, LLC were present. Mr. Sinsebox explained that the multi-phase subdivision began in 2002 and they are currently seeking final approval for Phase 2, Section A & B. The current plan is to file the map for Section A, and when the site improvement work is near completion for Section A, the map for Section B would be filed and the improvements made.
The pond area is the main drainage control for the whole development. During the SEQR process a lengthy drainage report was submitted to outline how the drainage would be directed to the pond, and how it will function. The first portion of the pond will be constructed during Phase A, and the remainder of the pond will be constructed during Phase B.
The current plan is exactly as outlined on the preliminary plan.
Mr. Sinsebox explained that he had reviewed the Town Engineer’s concerns and, hopefully, everything has been addressed to his satisfaction.
Paul Russell stated that he is satisfied.
Elaine Leasure questioned if, during Phase A of the pond construction, there will be standing water. Mr. Sinsebox responded that the ponds are designed to have about 4’ of water during non-storm times and 6-7’ during peak times, with extremely heavy flow.
Elaine Leasure questioned if the pond, constructed during Phase A, would have higher levels of water then ultimately, and what safety considerations have been made. Mr. Sinsebox stated that an outlet would be constructed.
Peter Schillaci questioned if the ponds would be dedicated to the town. Mr. Sinsebox explained that the ponds are part of the lands to be dedicated under the cluster development.
Gene Bavis questioned if the ponds would need to be dredged out periodically. Mr. Sinsebox stated that there is potential for silt to get into the pond when the earth is disturbed, however, the pond is generally over excavated to allow for this. Once the site is stabilized and everything is seeded, the potential is considerably reduced. Prior to the pond being dedicated to the town, the developer will make sure the bottom of the pond is at the correct elevation.
Elaine Leasure questioned when the “forever wild” area would be dedicated to the town. Mr. Sinsebox stated that the dedications would take place near the completion of the entire project.
Gene Bavis questioned the earth movement from the Wal-Ontario Road. Mr. Sinsebox stated that the topsoil has been stripped and some clearing has been done.
Paul Russell stated there were a few minor concerns, but they have been satisfactorily addressed.
Dick Morris, Attorney for the Town, stated that the Board could grant the applicant final approval at tonight’s meeting, as there has not been any deviation from the original plan.
Paul Russell stated the plans have been reviewed from an engineering standpoint for final approval, and they conform to Town Code, rules and regulations.
Peter Schillaci made a motion, seconded by Pat Stark to grant six (6), consecutive 6-month extensions to the original, previously approved, preliminary plat plan.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
Peter Schillaci made a motion, seconded by Pat Stark that the final plat plan for Phase 2, Sections A & B is in substantial agreement to the preliminary plat plan, as previously approved by this Planning Board.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
Pat Stark made a motion, seconded by Peter Schillaci to waive the public hearing and grant the applicant’s application, as authorized by Chapter 151-5(7), for final plat plan approval of Phase 2, Sections A & B.
Chairman Ruth questioned if any Phase has a significant change, if the applicant would have to appear before the Planning Board for a public hearing. Dick Morris stated any Phase that has a significant change, from the preliminary plat plan, would have to have a public hearing.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
4. Request of Mr. Alonzo Doan to extend previously approved site plan approval for Lot #2 of the Gilbert Subdivision, located at 5319 Lincoln Road. Property is zoned RR-2.
Mr. Doan was present and stated that he was interested in purchasing 5319 Lincoln Road (Lot #2 Gilbert Subdivision) and wished to have the site plan approval extended. There have been no changes made to the parcel. Correspondence from Kreiling Associates stated that the septic tank would need to be increased to a 1,250-gallon capacity.
Paul Russell stated that subsequent to preparing the comment sheet, he has received satisfactory certification.
Peter Schillaci made a motion, seconded by Gene Bavis to extend the site plan approval for a period of 1 year, beginning today’s date.
Roll Vote: Gene Bavis Aye Elaine Leasure Aye Larry Ruth Aye Pat Stark Aye Peter Schillaci Aye
Motion carried.
5. Conceptual plan of Terry Rexford for 2-lot subdivision and site plan approval for property located at 3288 Wildflower Drive. Property is zoned PD.
Bob Seeley from Kreiling Associates was present and explained that this is the location of the former Gananda pool site. Mr. Rexford has purchased the property and would like to subdivide the property into two (2) parcels, one of which will contain the existing pool and pool house.
Mr. Seeley stated that all drainage would drain to an existing swale, which is 3.5’ deep and is the main drainage for this section of Gananda. The increased drainage will be minimal, as the driveways front on Wildflower.
There is an existing sewer cleanout near the pool site, which is 6”, and runs into the main sewer on Elderberry Circle. The lateral on lot #2 will be increased to 6”, with a ¼” per foot slope. By increasing the size of the pipe, the flow restriction will be reduced.
Paul Russell would like to see a 20’ easement for the lateral. The area of the silt fencing will be increased to include the disturbance area, and the 20’ easement will be shown on the plan along with more silt fencing, if necessary.
Paul Russell stated the applicant’s engineer has to demonstrate that there is adequate capacity for the increase in run off, even though it is “minimal”. Paul further stated that there is currently an existing 6” sanitary sewer, which appears to be within the easement. The plan must show a valid easement.
6. Conceptual Plan of Mr. and Mrs. Johann Bachner for residential site plan approval located at 4244 Wal-Ontario Road. Property is zoned RR-2.
Bob Seeley from Kreiling Associates was present and explained that the Bachner’s currently own the 51-acre parcel of vacant land, and would like to build one residence. Perk tests and topography have been done. There is only about 414’ of road frontage.
Chairman Ruth questioned if there was any intent for future subdivision. Bob Seeley responded that Mr. and Mrs. Bachner have no intention to further subdivide the parcel. If the parcel is sold in the future, there is a 60’ that could be used to access the back of the parcel.
Bob Seeley stated that the parcel topography would possibly allow room for 2-3 additional houses, but not for a large subdivision.
The site plan approval can be done Administratively, after Paul Russell is satisfied with the plan, per 151-18 of Walworth Town Code.
7. Conceptual Plan for Darryl Cera for 2-lot subdivision located at 4221 Boynton Road. Property is zoned RR-2.
Mr. Cera was present and stated he wished to subdivide an 8-acre parcel from the existing 23-acre parcel.
Gene Bavis questioned where the driveway for the 8-acre parcel would be located. Mr. Cera stated the parcel has been sited and the driveway could be almost anywhere.
Paul Russell stated it is important for the applicant to understand that the subdivision does not include any site plan approval; it is strictly transferring title from one person to another. By creating the subdivision, the person who purchases it, may or may not be able to develop it.
Chairman Ruth questioned if the parcel could be subdivided without a site plan. Dick Morris stated it could be subdivided, but it would not have site plan approval.
Gene Bavis questioned if it made sense to subdivide a parcel that is not useable.
Peter Schillaci questioned if there had been any preliminary engineering done on the parcel.
Gene Bavis stated he is concerned whether or not it would be possible to locate a driveway. When Gene visited the site, it appeared very steep.
Gene Bavis questioned how the width to depth ratio applied to this parcel. Phil Williamson stated “For lots from five acres to 10 acres, the relationship between depth and width shall not exceed five to one, with a minimum width at the front setback line of 200 feet”. Gene Bavis further stated that he did not feel the lot qualified per 180-10(4)(b).
Mr. Cera stated that the building site is on top of the hill, as the land levels out on top of the hill.
Dick Morris stated that the Planning Board, at the discretion of the Planning Board, had the option to waive the depth to width ratio requirements, as outlined in Town Code 180-10(4)(c).
Gene Bavis stated that the intent of the provision is related to 180-10(4)(b). Even though the parcel is somewhat irregular, it’s generally a rectangle. If you use the 200’ of width at the building site, it does not comply.
Peter Schillaci questioned if it would be possible for the applicant’s driveway to be used as the access for the vacant land parcel. Gene Bavis stated that this would create a shared-driveway situation, which is typically avoided.
Mr. Cera stated that the last time he was at the Planning Board meeting there was a different configuration of the parcel, but the issue of the driveway was not mentioned. Gene Bavis stated that the lot geometry, topography and the installation of the driveway are all outstanding issues that need to be presented to the Board.
Phil Williamson stated that the applicant should obtain a copy of the approval procedure, which provides the information the applicant has to supply to the Planning Board. Phil suggested the applicant stop by the office for the necessary information.
Gene Bavis stated that there are properties where approval may not be possible, perhaps this parcel is one of those properties.
Chairman Ruth questioned if there are engineering possibilities to overcome the contour issues to provide a safe access. Paul Russell stated that the problem could be overcome, but would be extremely costly.
Gene Bavis stated the lot geometry is an issue that has been addressed in the past. In the late 1980’s there was law passed regarding the “bowling alley” style lots.
Gene Bavis does not see any compelling issues for the Board to grant a Waiver. There are times when a Waiver makes sense, however, this is not one of the times.
8. Discussion for Larry Trapani for proposed 10-lot residential subdivision located at 452 Plank Road. Property is zoned RR-1.
Paul Russell stated he had not received the plan in a timely manner; therefore a review had been done.
Chairman Ruth requested that Paul Russell mail the applicant a letter outlining his concerns. Paul Russell stated he would mail his comments to the applicant.
Pat Stark made a motion, seconded by Elaine Leasure to adjourn.
Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned 9:08 P.M.
Karen Ambroz, Clerk |